Crazy 88
2008 Results
Lap 1
| Name | Class | Lap 1 Finish Time | Lap 1 Ride Time |
| Kevin Rice | Men’s Gear | 11:12:00 AM | 03:57 |
| Adam Cornette | Men’s Gear | 11:12:00 AM | 03:57 |
| Nathan Friedman | Men’s SS | 11:29:00 AM | 04:14 |
| Brad Van Orden | Cyclocross (Level 1 Bad-Ass) | 11:33:00 AM | 04:18 |
| Jeremy Morgan | Men’s Gear | 11:44:00 AM | 04:29 |
| Curtis Franklin | Men’s Gear | 11:46:00 AM | 04:31 |
| Chad Brown | Men’s Gear | 11:55:00 AM | 04:40 |
| Chris Gardner | Men’s Gear | 11:57:00 AM | 04:42 |
| Matt Field | Men’s Gear | 12:02:00 PM | 04:47 |
| Eric Bohn | Men’s SS | 12:07:00 PM | 04:52 |
| Cole Habe | Women’s Gear | 12:10:00 PM | 04:55 |
| Cap’n Cum Peat | Men’s Gear | 12:10:00 PM | 04:55 |
| Ben Sullivan | Men’s Gear | 12:11:00 PM | 04:56 |
| Will Swanson | Men’s Gear | 12:12:00 PM | 04:57 |
| Zack Heim | Men’s Gear | 12:15:00 PM | 05:00 |
| Josh Zollinger | Men’s SS | 12:20:00 PM | 05:05 |
| Bob LaRouche | Men’s Gear | 12:27:00 PM | 05:12 |
| Captain Patchinko | Men’s SS | 12:30:00 PM | 05:15 |
| Matt Brown | Men’s Gear | 12:30:00 PM | 05:15 |
| Brad Dixon | Men’s Gear | 12:42:00 PM | 05:27 |
| Jason Alexander | Men’s Gear | 01:06:00 PM | 05:51 |
| Mike Franklin | Men’s Gear | 01:28:00 PM | 06:13 |
| Sheena Van Orden | Women’s Gear | 01:28:00 PM | 06:13 |
| CJ Const… | Men’s Gear | 01:28:00 PM | 06:13 |
Lap 2
| Name | Class | Overall Finish Time | Overall Ride Time |
| Nathan Friedman | Men’s SS | 05:22:00 PM | 10:07 |
| Chad Brown | Men’s Gear | 06:55:00 PM | 11:40 |
| Chris Gardner | Men’s Gear | 06:55:00 PM | 11:40 |
| Captain Patchinko | Men’s SS | 07:38:00 PM | 12:23 |
| Jeremy Morgan | Men’s Gear | 07:38:00 PM | 12:23 |
| Jason Alexander | Men’s Gear | 07:45:00 PM | 12:30 |
| Adam Cornette | Men’s Gear | DNF |
Update 7-31-08: Got the cue sheet finished and a nice little elevation profile for those who are interested. Mileage is a bit lower than expected (~84) but climbing is a bit higher (~10,000 ft) so I figure it’s a wash and we’re going with it.
Update 7-24-08: A plethora of GPS tracks have been added. There is a single file for the second loop, the updated waypoints file, a single file for the full loop and a 500 point split for easy uploading to garmin GPS units (which have a 500 point limit on each uploaded track).
Update 7-16-08: First Loop GPX tracks are up, see GPS section below. Also, thanks to tRoy there is a GPX file with water stops on it along the way. See below.
Do you like Ninjas?
Do you like long, epic mountain bike rides?
If you answered yes to at least one of the above questions, then this race is for you.
“So what the hell is this all about?”
The Crazy 88 is 88 miles of killer riding in a big ol’ figure 8 around the San Francisco Peaks and Flagstaff. It won’t be easy, but I guarantee it’ll be fun (or at least a good nutbuster). The idea hit me while I was suffering during a long race and said to myself “Man, I really like to suffer, why should I have to leave my own backyard to do that?”. Hence the idea was born.
Plus, I think ninjas are badass, so the crazy 88 seemed like a good name, and hence, a good distance.
“So where does it go?”
The coarse starts, ends, and goes through the Sunset Parking Lot at the top of Schultz Creek trail in lovely flagstaff, arizona.
Cue sheets are as follows:
PDF Format
Excel Format
For the so inclined, here’s a preview, click through to download the kmz file off google maps.
And finally, a nice little elevation profile, about 10,000 feet of climbing, yee haw!
“So when is this happening?”
I wanted to have it on 8-8-08 (see a theme yet?), but that’s a friday, so Saturday, August 9th it is! Start time is 7am at the sunset parking lot, pre-race meeting at 6:45am.
“Will there be aid stations?”
The only aid station will be the start/finish. You will pass through it at roughly the halfway point, so that means you need to carry enough food/water/gear for about 44 miles of riding. This varies from person-to-person, so make sure you’re set. I’m looking into getting some energy bars, drinks, gels, etc. donated to help out, but at the very minimum there will be some water and gatorade at the start/finish (and a keg of beer if you so desire for a mid-race snack).
Note: Cell Phone reception is spotty on some parts of the coarse. There is pretty good reception for most of the second loop, but around the north side of the peaks it varies.
“How about some maps or a GPS track or something?”
GPS Tracks are up. There are tracks for the first loop, second loop, full deal, and a 500 point split of the full deal. There is also a GPX file with waypoints at all the major turns. Finally, tRoy has put together a file which contains possible water stops. Note that some of them require filtration or iodine. I’ll have a downloadable cue sheet up sometime soon as well (which will have descriptions of the water stops as well as the turn by turn directions).
(Right click “save as. . . ” to save the file to your computer)
First Loop Track
Second Loop Track
Full Track
Full Track 500 Point Split
Turn-by-Turn Waypoint File
H2O Waypoint GPX File
Google Earth File of the Whole Shebang
“Alright, this sounds like fun, but how much is it?”
Per the forest service policy, as long as we’re under 75 people, and there isn’t a fee, then I don’t need a permit. Hence, the race is completely, 100% free!
Note: There will be beer and grilled foods after the race which I will be buying out of pocket, so I’ll have a donation bucket set up at the race to help out with costs. But, just to make sure I’m not profiting off it (which could be construed as a ‘fee’), I’m going to donate anything I receive above and beyond covering my costs for the food and beer to Flagstaff Biking.
“So how do I sign up?”
Either leave a comment at the bottom of this page, or send an email to crazy88@handlebarsandwich.com. If I start getting close to the 75 person limit, I may have to cap the entrants, but I don’t anticipate that being a problem.



HEY Nate
Just read about your race and it sounds really great. I wanted to let you know that I make my own granola bars and vacum seal them two per package. They are called T&A bars, many people up in Flag have been buying them from me for a while. I am coming up on Jan 19 for a show which you should go to at Flag brew it is a great band from Austin, anyways I will try to make a few dozen and bring them up and donate (per your post)them for your race if you would like. We are also coming up tha week in Aug for a confernece and I can try to bring up more. Let me know if you would like that.
- Amy Nunemaker
Link | July 5th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
I remember the granola bars, and I would love to get some out for the race! I’m sure people would love them, and I’d be more than happy to plug them at the race as well! If you want to work out some easier packaging system for the aid station format versus the 2 per package, anything is appreciated (and it may be easier for you than vacuum sealing that many). Give me a yell before you’re heading up the hill, and we’ll meet up and get a beer too.
p.s. I just saw Tim and Co. at the PNT and told him to say hi for me also (we’ll see how much he remembers. . . )
- Nathan
Link | July 5th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Bitchin. Should be more fun than getting killed by The Edge at ping pong. Maybe you should ride that 69’er Big Dummy and take extra water for us??
- Benson
Link | July 6th, 2008 at 9:33 am
I’m in.
- Chad
Link | July 7th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Your course looks great… but the “Ride up Lone Tree and into town on the road” could be avoided by doing this: Dropdown into walnut canyon from fisher point then follow the Flagstaff AZT route to the rio de flag. Go thru the tunnel to Sam’s Club, cross the tracks and Route 66, double track and FUTS over McMillan Mesa and over the AZT bridge into Buffalo park. But…. all that McMillan Mesa construction could be an issue. Let me know if you want the GPS tracks for the above and I will bust it out.
I think I may be able to make the crazy 88 my “Swan Song Race” before becoming a dad.
t
- troy
Link | July 7th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Sounds like a great way to spend my birthday, I’m in.
- Josh
Link | July 8th, 2008 at 8:45 am
I’m going to attempt this.
- rhino
Link | July 8th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Thanks for signing up guys, it’s gonna be a helluva time.
Troy- Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll go check it out this week sometime after work. I’ve got a track for the new secret now too, so I’ll check out the ‘alternate approach’ and see about getting it into the file, might be a good addition.
- Nathan
Link | July 9th, 2008 at 6:24 am
The end of old secret is still there so you could jam down chimney springs from friedlein then hit end of old secret (by your mama) then climb some rough singletrack then go down upper moto and hit new secret all the way to shutz tank area. Dara and I are going to ride up your mama then do secret back to shultz on Sunday if ya want to come.
- troy
Link | July 10th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
That’s actually what I was thinking when I said ‘new secret’ I actually went and got that section of the GPS track with chimney springs-old secret-upper moto-new secret on tuesday, just haven’t gotten a chance to splice it into the file yet. Sunday might be a good time, I’ll let you know. I need to go out and get the turn-by-turn mileages for loop 2 at some point also, so that may be on the schedule.
- Nathan
Link | July 10th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
hey let me know if you need any help with gps. I will be on the bike for a few rides and I can take the GPS. Then next thursday I am off to Texas till Aug 1.
- troy
Link | July 10th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
How much of this is on the Emmitt Barks map?
- Matt
Link | July 11th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Matt-
The Emmitt Barks map covers all of the area you need, but a few of the trails aren’t on there as they are either social trail or newer than the latest map update.
Off the top of my head the definite ones which aren’t on there are pick-up sticks and sherlock. I also am not sure how up to date some connectors on and off the Arizona trail are (in particular the connector from sandy steep down to the trail). I’ll have to take a look. All the rest of it should be on there.
- Nathan
Link | July 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I’m in for this one.
- El Freako in Rico (Jeff Hemperley)
Link | July 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I will NOT be there.
It should be a good time, the first loop is quality, and quite hard. No excuses.
- DaveC
Link | July 14th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Same weekend as Leadville – sorry can’t make it – damn
!
- Alex
Link | July 16th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Doh! Just remembered that I signed up for 12-hours of Steamboat way back when and it was postponed til this fall….and it’s on the same day! Man, my luck this year….....
- Matt
Link | July 16th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
I am planning to make it, good (i hope) for at least the first half around the peaks.
- Jason
Link | July 16th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
I’m excited about this ninja idea…I dig the 8 theme. Sounds like a good time. Sign me up!
Cole (you know, that chick in black on the Surly 1×1)
- Cole Habay
Link | July 20th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Thanks everyone for signing up! I got the ‘final’ for the second loop busted out today, so I’ll have GPX files up this week, cue sheet should be soon to follow. In case anyone was wondering, I did both loops individually in right around 4.5 hours each at a decent pace. More climbing on the first, more singletrack on the second. Fun times all around.
Again, thanks for the interest, can’t wait to see everyone out there!
- Nathan
Link | July 20th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Sounds like a good time. Count me in.
- Yuri
Link | July 22nd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Sounds like fun, count me in. What about event t-shirts?
- Frank
Link | July 22nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I’m not the most techno-savvy person & I don’t own a gps, I tried opening the gps tracks with google earth & the free version of topo-fusion, no luck on both counts. Is there anyway I can get a printable version of the map?
Thanks,
Josh
- Josh
Link | July 24th, 2008 at 10:23 am
I’ll be there. I think we should have to perform some sort of Ninja appropriate task at the mid-point to continue on or at least a bad Monty Python impersonation. Looking forward to it.
Zack
- Zack
Link | July 24th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Josh – I just posted up a Google Earth file which contains the track, the turn-by-turn waypoints, and the water stops. I will also have a turn-by-turn cue sheet up at some point soon with mileages on it. So, you should be able to just click on the google earth file link above and view it, and if you shell out the $15 or $20 for a bike computer before the race, you should be able to navigate with mileages no problem.
Zack – I like it. Might have invest in a video camera for this. . .
- Nathan
Link | July 24th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
“I think we should have to perform some sort of Ninja appropriate task at the mid-point”
shit! I just sold my nunchakus on Craigslist. I knew I was going to need them for this race.
-rhino
- rhino
Link | July 24th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
is it still possible to camp up near the start? Also, any suggestions for good hikes and easy bike trailer or jogging stroller routes near the startcamping—my wife and 2-yr old are planning on coming. was going to suggest hiking up Weatherford into the mtns. thanks!
- Jason
Link | July 24th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Jason,
You can definitely camp near the start. I’m not sure if there will be any room right at the start, but camping is legal all up and down schultz pass road, so you can easily get within 1-2 miles of the start on that road with no problems. There are a lot of trails that start from that area, take a look at the Emmit Barks flagstaff trails map and you should be able to find several.
- Nathan
Link | July 25th, 2008 at 11:41 am
i’ll give it a shot
- matt
Link | August 8th, 2008 at 11:32 am