Fire, Fire Everywhere
Well, well, well. You knew it was only a matter of time before I had a post about the now-famous Schultz Fire. I’m sure, even if you read the blog from somewhere other than arizona (which, based on the stats, about 40% of you do) you’ve now heard about the Schultz Fire.
It supposedly started from a campfire left unattended, or not completely put out up by Schultz tank.
I actually got an email, courtesy of Chris Cameron, of a few pictures of the very start of the fire. I’m not sure if the pics were hers or if they were somebody else’s, but this is pretty much the earliest pictures I’ve seen of the whole thing getting started. It’s also probably one of the last pictures taken of the Little Elden Trail area in what was its ‘current’ state.
Another set of pics from the beginning of the fire are on Dan Greenspan’s site. He was, as chance would have it, on top of humphrey’s when the whole thing was just getting rolling.
The first I saw of it was when we were rolling back into town from gallup.
Everyone has been talking about what’s burning and what’s not. The best map I’ve seen of it (and it’s kept pretty up to date) is from a group at NAU. Here’s the link. You can see a lot of the commonly used trails with the fire perimeters. You can also turn on different layers in the upper right for avalanche paths and areas of ‘intense heat’.
The fire crews have been doing a great job of keeping it away from people’s homes and to my knowledge no structures have been burned so far. The full incident report, along with the absolute latest maps from the forest service are on this page.
The latest major event which was visible from town was a ‘burnout’ that they did yesterday starting around 11:45. We went in to get some lunch and when we came out, it looked like they had dropped a bomb on it. This was a controlled burn behind some pre-constructed fire breaks in order to reduce fuel and hopefully make the fire more controlled.
We actually have a pretty good view of the peaks from the second story of my work building, so I took my camera up and snapped a couple pics. I had the telephoto lens as well, so you can see just how massive some of these ‘controlled’ (maybe ‘planned’ is a better word) burns were. Note the helicopter for scale in the first picture (black speck, left of center).
So what does this fire mean for all of us? Well, as you probably know, in the immediate, it means that there are fire restrictions in place as of wednesday (can’t imagine why it wasn’t sooner. Maybe there’s some rule about public notice before it goes into effect?), and mount elden and the kachina peaks wilderness are currently closed. I imagine they’ll start incrementally opening up sections as they contain the fire and it starts dying down.
The trails that are definitely within the fire right now are Little Elden, Little Bear, Waterline Road, and a large portion of the Inner Basin trail. As Anthony pointed out on FBO’s site, “our trails are not being destroyed”. I actually fear that they’re not being destroyed, but that the first monsoon that comes will be doing some serious damage to them. Anyone ridden Heart Trail lately? I just hope that Little Bear doesn’t turn into something like that. It’s a washed out mess of a trail, and it goes through the old burn area on the side of Elden.
I guess only time will tell. When the trails open back up, we shall find out.
As far as my opinions on the whole debacle, I think we all feel pretty strongly that they catch the people who did this. I know it hurts me to watch this all burn and know that it’s all due to somebody’s stupidity. I’ve heard rumors of people being careless up by the tank the day it happened, and them scoffing at people who pointed it out to them that they didn’t need a bonfire on a saturday morning and should tone it down.
Those people have about 15,000 acres of guilt sitting on their heads right now. They actually better hope that the cops catch them before anyone who lives in Timberline find them first. If the cops catch them, they’re staring at some fines and maybe jail time. If somebody who’s been evacuated from their home for the last 5 days, and will be going back to a smoke smell that just won’t leave catches them, they’re going to be in a world of pain. And I don’t think that any of us are going to stop them.
In fact, we might just have somebody rig up a set of stocks down in Heritage Square for a few days before they get turned over to the cops. We could sell bushels of tomatoes, it would be a great time. That should drive the point home.
What a great punishment, why ever did we get rid of that?
I know that eventually this will all die down, and we’ll get back to our lives up here without the haze of smoke in the air and the vision of flames leaping up off our favorite trails. It’s going to be a changed landscape up there, and I can only hope that we can all pull together to do whatever repairs are necessary to ensure that the trails are in good condition again very soon.
Along those lines, there’s an upcoming workshop on sustainable trail building being put on by IMBA and FBO. It’s on July 17th, and is a half-day of classroom on trailbuilding and a half day of trailbuilding out on schultz creek. Details here. If you are really looking to help out with this whole situation, I think this could be a great way to get involved by gaining some knowledge about how to help fix the damages that have been done.
I know we all feel like we would love to do what we can to help fight the fire, but the reality is that the fire itself is going to last a couple weeks, and the vast majority of us are not qualified to help put it out. However, the rebuilding of the forest and the trails that run through it and we all love is going to take orders of magnitude longer than the time to fight the fire. Fortunately, rebuilding trails is something that is a lot more accessible to all of us. I encourage you to get out there and make a difference.
Just as an FYI, I got an email from the forest service yesterday about the 88, they want some electronic versions of the maps to clarify some course details, but it seems as thought the permit is still moving forward. We may have some re-routes if necessary, but we may just be riding through some different scenery as well. I’ll keep everyone updated as I hear more.
Finally, I’ll leave you with an incredible video that was taken of the fire. It’s mesmerizing.
(BTW, I actually saw this first through Keiji Iwai’s site, but there’s a different name on the youtube one, not sure if they’re the same or not, but this one is embedable)









Nathan-
Thanks for the link-backs!
As to erosion….yes it will be an issue, but Hart Trail’s problem is run-to-rise (too steep for the side slope)not necessarily lack of vegetation. Little Bear is mostly well layed-out, so it should weather erosion better than Hart.
I definitely encourage folks to consider the IMBA class if they want to help! We’ll really need to ramp up our Mobil Trail Crew and volunteer participation over the next few years to keep these trails intact while also keeping up with an intensive new trail construction schedule with the Flagstaff Loop Trail, AZ Trail, and regular trail maintenance.
Thanks for getting the word out!
Anthony
- Anthony Quintile
Link | June 25th, 2010 at 9:41 am
I hear ya about the stocks at Heritage Square. This is so senseless and stupid and so easily avoided with even the slightest bit of common sense. I’ve read posts on other MTB sites about how there were 6′ bonfires Saturday night at some of the campsites up there. Dumb. Just dumb.
- del
Link | June 25th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Unfortunately even well laid out trails have a hard time with monsoonal moisture after high intensity fires. The consumption of live vegetation (including the root systems), dead material on the ground and the organic matter in the soil all contribute to instability and high rates of erosion. When everything is consumed and the soil is sterilized it becomes hydrophobic and will not absorb water thus increasing the speed and quantity of water rushing down slope without much to get in its way to slow it down. The organic material being consumed immediately adjacent to the trail leaves the trail extremely vulnerable to erosion when the moisture does come. I like to be optimistic about the well being of our trail system but I think being realistic is also important. Lastly burned areas tend to be closed for a long stretch of time after the fire goes through due to the danger of flooding, rock slides, trees falling etc. Let us all hope for the best and thank all of those folks putting themselves at risk on the fireline.
- Matt
Link | June 26th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Matt-
I am aware of everything you are pointing out…there is a good chance that Little Bear (and others) may be closed for safety concerns precipitated by the conditions you describe for the next couple or three years.
Hart Trail is really steep. If Hart Trail is usable in spite of the damage caused by the fire that burned all of the trees there in the 1970s, it gives me hope for Little Bear, which as I look out my window at it now, does not look nearly as bad as Hart must have.
At this point a bit of hopefulness can’t hurt. I am a pretty big fan of reality as well, ‘though.
- Anthony Quintile
Link | June 26th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Anthony’s correct – the problem with Hart trail is the grade, not erosion from veg loss. Matt is right to be concerned about erosion, but some of the rhetoric about the fire in other arenas has been positively apocalyptic. As I’m sure Matt’s aware, fire severity is really patchy in nature and soil hydrophoby is not homogenous. The main concern for soil integrity during severe fires comes from the duration and depth of soil heating. Two conditions must be met in order for this to occur: 1) there must be adequate soil organic matter for the fire to persist for days/weeks, and 2) there must have been sufficient fire severity. If these conditions are met, While there was high-severity fire during this fire, there were areas of moderate- to low-intensity fire. Further, there are many places where the organic layer wasn’t nearly deep enough to cause high soil temperatures and sterilization to depth.
It’s really hard for anyone to say what’s the scenario on little bear, unless they’ve been there – and i doubt any of us have. We’ll have to wait and see – but I encourage everyone to reduce the intensity of the rheteric regarding the impact this fire has had on the ecosystems on the peak until scientists have the opportunity to get up there and evaluate. As I’ve mentioned a few times to people, the really cool aspen stands in the inner basin are there precisely because a severe fire rolled up the inner basin ~150 years ago. Aspen colonize burned areas. The reason that stand is dying is because the aspens mature and give way to the spruce/fir mixed conifer forest. Like that aspen grove? Imagine the E side of the peaks that way – we just have to wait a while to see it.
-b
oh, for anyone who doesn’t know me i’m a phd if forest ecology with an emphasis in soil processes. i’d be happy to talk more to anybody about their concerns.
- Ben
Link | June 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Ben-I appreciate your expanding on the topics at hand. I was just giving a broad example of what I have had the fortune/misfortune to witness in many places throughout the west for the better part of ten years. I also wasn’t in any way claiming that we were going to experience this type of thing here. I was merely pointing out that there are a few other things to take into account when speaking of the survival of a given trail. I do also appreciate educational responses to comments made on sites instead of the often found insults towards others comments. It makes me feel as if there is still hope to have a legitimate discussion with someone.
Anthony-In comparison I do have high hopes for Little Bear especially in comparison to the Hart Trail as I am also well aware of this trails short comings in terms of construction. I do think that if the trails suffer any amount of damage that the amount of people willing to go out and do trail work will increase after this experience is over.
- Matt
Link | June 26th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Wow! Did we just have a civil, friendly conversation about a loaded issue on the internet?!?! Weird! Awesome, but weird.
I am pretty sure we all agree on the issue as well!
Thanks, guys!
- Anthony Quintile
Link | June 26th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
I’m always impressed with the discussion that goes on during these posts, thanks a lot guys.
Only time will tell as to what the trails look like, hopefully the road to recovery on little bear and little elden is a quick and painless one. At the very least, we’ll have a bit of a scenery change, hopefully that’s the worst of it. I have a feeling that even if we see a significant degree of damage to the trails, the repairs or the ones built in their place will be just as good, if not better.
- Nathan
Link | June 26th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
huh, i even achieved it with a beer buzz. hence the typos, sentence that didn’t end right, and the failure to state that i’m a phd candidate, not a phd. yet. gimme time.
thanks again matt. i too have lived in places that were ravaged by fire and post-fire disasters – i lived in missoula during the great Bitterroot fires of 2000. whoa, now those were a mess. see you on the trails i hope. sounds like we might have some stories to share.
- Ben
Link | June 27th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Nice discussion. I’d also like to point out that the Hart Trail was built long after the 77 Elden Fire. Maybe 1992 or 93. And it drops down through Redwall Limestone so there was never really any soil to begin with. Even then it was the kind of trail you might ride once/year or never again.
- Joe
Link | June 27th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I mentioned to the FS LEO that works in my office about the rumors you heard about the bonfire, I guess the Special Agent investigating the fire had followed up on the bonfire reports and determined that it was in a different site than where the Schultz fire started. So far there are still no suspects or leads on who caused the fire.
- Andy
Link | July 7th, 2010 at 3:24 pm